Feel good, fit well, hope they work out. Important notes on the fit. These are cut very differently from modern shorts. However, there are 2 main factors to keep in mind with these: 1.) The waist. This design of shorts has been in use for decades and was originally conceived back in an era where men's pants/shorts were meant to be worn truly at one's waistline. So, for people that say the waist on these is way too small, they're expecting these to fit relaxed and hang down on their hips like modern shorts. I wear 32W/Medium in all my pants, but I prefer my casual pants to hang at the hip, not up by my naval. These shorts sit up by your naval, but I was expecting them to do that so I like it. They are cut purposefully to taper ever so slightly from the hips up to the waist, not to mention the crotch is extra low, because they expect these shorts to be worn higher up on your actual waistline. So, if you order a size up, like so many people suggest, you will likely have shorts that hang down closer to what you might be used to for the waist, but the rest of the shorts are going to feel saggy and loose because they're meant to be up higher. 2.) The leg openings. A lot of people complain about how big the leg holes are. These are meant to be worn by military swimmers. Fit, athletic men that spend all day swimming. Anyone that's ever trained for swimming, or even just seen a professional swimmer will know that those guys have huge legs. If you're some scrawny, military wannabe or some roided-out meat-head that doesn't believe in "leg day," these are gonna be loose and saggy around your thighs. Get in the water, swim some laps, build your quads up and I guarantee these will fit you much better. Not to mention, these are workout, training shorts. You need to be able to do all sorts of movements in them. You don't want them to be all snug and chaffing around your upper thighs. Just trying them on, I really like how they fit. Very classic design and look. They feel great and I can't wait to actually take them into the water. My only concern is that the material could be better. The D-rings aren't the sturdiest and the buttons on the fly feel like I'll probably be sewing them back on before long. Overall though I highly recommend them and I say you're safe to order them in whatever pant size you generally wear. However, if you want to be extra sure, get a measuring tape and measure yourself at your actual waistline, not down where you normally wear your other shorts.
